November 27, 2004

Commiato

palma's paper filling fast
with silvered lines
in layered tones and tomes,
her graphite trek
"...like those tumuli to which each new traveler adds a stone."
as she is giving mirth
to every scissored self event
proclaiming
"I am drawing all the answers to your questions."

palma densities:
polka dot potentials
pack the punch,
planonmenon of hope
her sacred source,
a thousand planes conjoining
into many laughing buddhas
bequeathing traditions of revolt
as artists-incognito fly up the years
through zones of neverfailinglight
as palmadensables becoming-imperceptible
shift tectonic indiscernables
into hospitalities
that greet and meet one
in the middle of its markings
from the distance of a flight
like Turner's coloured streamsoflight
to capture conjured couplings
with redundancies reduced
by sensibilities of self
and spill chaotic compositions
into equanimities contained
within the opus-ended-shadows
of an aria that prays the play
of just one hand
to compliment another
trailing
lines
of
questions
drawn
across
the
stones
they
leave
behind


l'ádozione delle idee


"...that many things can be affected by one's cultural
heritage, by theories and experience, by literature, art
and economics, by scientific research and technology.
But many things are also born of intuition, taste, ethics,
the choice of values, of reasons and opportunities, that
in part we can control and in part we cannot control, and
that are suggested only to a certain extent by the job of
living itself.

Yet even in this constellation hovering between theories
and practices, that are both stable and unstable, necessary,
possible, and even accidental, and between the variations,
imbalances and even adversities of social policies, there is
plenty of margin and freedom for us to use our intelligence,
passion and creativity. So despite everything, it is
permissible to think that creativity, or rather knowledge and
the wonder of knowledge (our most important right, which so
often goes unrecognized) can serve as the strong point of our
work. It is thus our continuing hope that creativity will
become a normal travelling companion..." (Loris Malaguzzi)


35 Comments:

Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

["I am drawing all the answers to your questions."] I wonder at this, on a few different levels ...

9:37 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

How so?

10:22 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

in the sense that I'd like to know why you chose this quote, among others.

connect it for me, if you don't mind.

10:29 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

this answer is not complex...a conversation with an
incredible 4 year old who draws amazingly well while I was asking her a barage of questions so she drew a page of lines in every direction and while doing so, told me that she was drawing the answers to all my questions...looking up slyly as she smiled...in that moment, it struck me as quite philosophically profound, that sometimes one can actually draw an answer without words, convey volumes without words...a glance, a touch, a knowing nod, a (musical) note, a (graphite) line

... what differing levels had you wondered at...I would be interested to know

10:40 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

that was the answer I was looking for ... curious as to the context and inspiration; a way to move beyond the 'words on a page' ...

10:45 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

yes, always a polemic to bounce the words off of, always writing through a number of layers, or trying to, to get at something else...always speaking of more than one thing

10:49 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

what did you mean by this?...[curious as to the context and inspiration]

10:55 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

I just wanted to know the environment that you were in - the context - and who or what inspired you to these thoughts ... to set an ambiance, of sorts, as I read through it.

I can never really get an idea of where you get your inspiration, or the environment that surrounds you, so this helps to set the stage ...

11:02 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

but it's always more than one thing, which is probably, in part, why you can't easily get a single sense of it..the confluence of a day's events coupled with a mood or overriding thought trailing on from yesterday, perhaps layered into a pervasive desire or some need (to find something or to understand it, once found), maybe a determination to bleed my way out of a maze (metaphorical or otherwise)...and then there are all these books that surround me, beckoning perusal, revisiting texts to see it in new light, 'milles plateaux' being the strongest beacon...more of an answer, amorphous though it is, than you bargained for, no doubt

11:11 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

and here I was, looking up [amorphous] ...

it all makes sense, though .. and not contrary to what I'd thought, a confluence of ideas, melding into a whole of sorts; it's just sometimes intersting to find the concrete inspiration for piece ...

11:16 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

see, that's interesting, whereas I always want to carry it forward into the philosophical...not that the concrete, the immanent doesn't matter to the piece... like your tectonic shift between those perfect english sentences and the more colloquial you

11:23 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

it's about adapting, sometimes ... using different voices to elicit different responses at different moments, moving beyond the 'formal' to reveal the 'real', if only an aspect of it ...

for you, this one may have been philosophical, but for me, it's a question of origin, of inspiration, just as knowing whom or what Malaguzzi referenced as she wrote what you noted.

a simple 'point de départ' for other things; a means to make it more 'real'.

11:31 p.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

[it's about adapting, sometimes ... using different voices to elicit different responses at different moments, moving beyond the 'formal' to reveal the 'real', if only an aspect of it ...]...but it also implies that you are at home in many (most?) contexts, both real (lived) and written

as the writer of these texts, I am more interested in seeing if the ideas convey without explaining origins, because if not, then they just don't work...that notion that successful art does not need explanation
(ie. please shoot the curator/artist who posts essays next to paintings)...but I probably read like you, wanting to get behind the words, to 'see' who the writer really is and get at what exactly provokes an idea


[a simple 'point de départ' for other things; a means to make it more 'real'. ]...well said

... what's real through my window is the haze of a silver moon seen through the clouds of this night's sky

11:54 p.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

[is the haze of a silver moon seen through the clouds of this night's sky] knowing this, and that from beyond your window, you see the lake, and that if you move beyond a bit, you see a different world, far beyond the lake ... all of this is priceless ...

each reader reads into a text what he wants; I suspect that I am more comfortable in many contexts than the passing reader, and for that reason alone I want to know the specific context in which it was written, two agendas at works probably, though neither complementary nor opposing.

though I am by no means a 'cultured' person with respect to art, I enjoy reading what the artist has written next to the work; it allows for an insight and opposing view, because often there is a disconnect btwn artist/art and spectator; text can add - or detract - from meaning, but is sometimes important.

not to mentiont that I'm in a more literal mode at the moment.

12:08 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

[two agendas at works probably, though neither complementary nor opposing]...yes

[because often there is a disconnect btwn artist/art and spectator; text can add - or detract - from meaning, but is sometimes important.]

... yes there is often a disconnect between art and viewer and I agree that sometimes text interpretation is important (as an educational supplement) to art... but really, art is a subjective experience and good art communicates on this level somehow to everyone, or else it fails, regardless of the viewer's sophistication

...it just seems that there is alot of mediocre art (probably mine included) that too often hides behind 'post modern' text explanations...if the painter has to write a 6 page essay to explain a painting, why not just write exclusively and forget about the paint...line, colour, form, etc. are all components of a (visual) language that need to be practiced before they can convey anything

...and of course I am smiling at what I write this here, knowing that I find it interesting to note that you take the time to read the text in an exhibition, that you want to understand the artist which is very admirable

[not to mentiont that I'm in a more literal mode at the moment]...and what I'm listening to is Sting

12:35 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

[art is a subjective experience and good art communicates on this level somehow to everyone, or else it fails, regardless of the viewer's sophistication]

we may agree and disagree on this, on a few levels; I think that it's important in some respect that the artist explain himself, if the work is abstact, and sometimes even if it isn't, if only to supplement the work ... art can be both a visual and written/intellectual medium, I think ... just as appreciating something historical, a building for example, such as those you reference in Harris' 'Ward', can be made more interseting provided the background is revealed ...

[and what I'm listening to is Sting] ... noting that 'shape of my heart' has played more than once today, in addition to The Sundays and Ray Charles etc etc ...

12:53 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

yes [in some respect]...it's necessary to document the context of good art, even beleiving that artists have a certain responsibility to make (their) art accessible to an unsuspecting public, whether abstract or not...[if only to supplement the work] to educate, to demystify...

but I disagaree that the written/intellectual medium of art interpretation is part of the medium of art...it may be necessary or important to the work but it is something unto itself, something different...an intellectual attempt to understand the subjective percepts and feeling states of the artist in translation from another language...from smooth to striated...like reading the reader second hand...as if reading about Mozart actually helps one to actually feel the subtle and sad nuances of his Larghettos

...[just as appreciating something historical, a building for example, such as those you reference in Harris' 'Ward', can be made more interseting provided the background is revealed]...yes, of course it makes it more interesting, as long as the artist does not need to rely on that to communicate ... regarding Harris' Ward, I am intuitively drawn to the work first, its thick strokes and beautiful colours, etc. and then, after the fact of its experience, I want to know more about it, about its context or frame...

[... noting that 'shape of my heart' has played more than once today] ...for me it was his "Whenever I Say Your Name" [in addition to The Sundays and Ray Charles etc etc ...]...oh, Ray Charles is amazing, isn't he?...

1:38 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

[but I disagaree that the written/intellectual medium of art interpretation is part of the medium of art...it may be necessary or important to the work but it is something unto itself]

I think that we may be saying similar things; a text can complement a piece, while not detracting from its artistic merits; each will take what he wants from it, independent of what the artist things; crap will always be crap, regardless of how it's intellectualized.

[regarding Harris' Ward, I am intuitively drawn to the work first, its thick strokes and beautiful colours, etc]

yes, you are ... but I - I am not; it's interesting for me to see how another interprets this, how a 'contemporary' of sorts views another's work; it's insightful, and advances a general understanding. I for example, would find nothing extraordinary or noteworthy about these homes, either visually or architecturally or historically ... without a bit of background; it makes the story that much more compelling ... and perhaps that's one of the interests: in the past, I've been paid to tell a story, to spin a tell and to make things that are mundane - interesting. I like the 'untold' story, and want to hear it.

["Whenever I Say Your Name" ] which I know only as a Kenny Loggins song - genius, btw ... and [oh, Ray Charles is amazing, isn't he?...], how is, as I listen to 'bye, bye bluebird' ... and how many times I fell asleep to his 'America The Beautiful' as an adolescent in the summer, as it played as the last thing on the station that showed Westerns and wrestling and old movies ... brilliant.

1:51 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

[I for example, would find nothing extraordinary or noteworthy about these homes, either visually or architecturally or historically ... without a bit of background]

...and I find this comment of yours really interesting and am glad you wrote it...because one always views a work of art through a particularily personal frame and any piece is viewed through the filter of what we bring to it...I have walked through the Ward and seen homes like those, know its geographied light and find them 'true' to Harris' work in the flesh...so all of that informs my reading but my choice of those particular pictures also has something to do with wanting to like Harris' attempt at Canadianizing impression-ism ... there are other artists I like much more, but it is not a question of comparison, meeting each on his/her own terms...he was chosen because he is from a local tradition and painted in that paticular genre...I like his painterly attempt at Canadian-ness (which comes across in his later landscapes), and yes, I concede that knowing this informs my reading of those works...

what do you mean by [in the past, I've been paid to tell a story, to spin a tell and to make things that are mundane - interesting. I like the 'untold' story, and want to hear it.]?...[to spin a tell] is a good turn of phrase btw

my O Canada to your ['America The Beautiful']
...your tastes are relatively classic and traditional, n'ést pas?

2:21 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

[what do you mean by [in the past, I've been paid to tell a story, to spin a tell and to make things that are mundane - interesting. I like the 'untold' story, and want to hear it.]]

super simple: your banker and broker and investment advisor and florist and even your physician - though perhaps a bit less in Canada, with your socialised medicine - are paid to spin a tale, to give advice, to make that advice as attractive as possible, in order to induce you to action; same thing. I was paid for an opinion, and to make that opinion interesting; compelling.

[I concede that knowing this informs my reading of those works...] ... which is precisely my point; to me, the outsider, it means little to nothing, and could perceived at first glance as being rather drab and nondescript as home and neighborhoood, lacking charm and interest.

[your tastes are relatively classic and traditional] ... they tend that way, yes - though one shouldn't be mislead by these musical references, as I'm as aware of Ray Charles as I am the Spanish and French classics of 'the era' ... but Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin - 'Ain't No Way' - and Marvin Gaye - 'Let's Get it On' - and Etta and Otis Redding .. all are part of the fabric, things I listen to when the mood strikes me, yes ...

just as I'll listen to Segovia on SUN mornings, enjoying a coffee in the sun ...

2:44 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

literal moods aside, and not ignoring the socialized medicine retort, but yes I understand the notion of being paid to spin a tale...however, I was asking more specifically about your specific context, in the same way that you've asked me about my context in previous ways...perhaps too personal a question though


... [they tend that way, yes - though one shouldn't be mislead by these musical references]...I don't think I was misled, being aware of your multilinguality (if that's a word, and if not, it should be)...my comment was more of a general surmise, an impression, sum of all your previous comments, writings, etc. stated exactly in the middle of a night

"a cloud forms in the sky like an image in my brain, the wind blows like I breathe, a rainbow spans the horizon for a s long as my heart needs to reconcile itslef ot life..." ATP

3:03 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

I love this so much ... you make me laugh ... [multilinguality ... in the middle of a night] so endearing ...

[more specifically about your specific context] ... I worked in investment advisory - I was an investment advisor - and we 'ran' institutional and retail money; the crux of it is selling/'positioning' equities and fixed income in an account, for which a compelling story is needed; why company XYZ is is going to outperform in the short or long-term etc ... satellite radio being a prime example, though the story is old by now; a few years ago, it was prime - still on the cusp of being discovered, inexpensive, an explosive market, not what the big I banks were buying, but what the smart money, the hedge funds were dealing in - big difference; true to form, it has outperformed, and will continue to do so in the next several years ...

[given the you know Nortel, and telecom in general, and probably some high-tech stuff, then you probably know the hit that all of these took in teh past several years, and the repressed mkt that Silicon Valley and the Bay Area has experienced since, across all sectors]

it's part of a larger story; communicating abstact ideas to high net-worth individuals who may or may not be business savvy, meaning that you have to change speeds quickly, explaining complex ideas and strategies while not appearing to be patronizing, teaching and convincing at the same time, knowing that you're dealing with large sums of money in a given transaction and portfolio, that there are legacies and retirements at stake etc etc

too much information; that's what happens when you make me laugh - and I'm tired.

Good night.

3:26 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

a good note to end with...

3:44 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

[too much information; that's what happens when you make me laugh]...au contraire...quite interesting, [teaching and convincing]...tell me more anytime

12:05 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

'interesting' for you - [you flatter me] - but too much information for me ... too revealing ...

and I'm not so sure that the scales are even ...

12:58 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

well if it is too revealing, it can be deleted...

1:01 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

and I'll try to forget but it won't be easy

1:04 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

I'll bet that you're subtly funny in-person ... just low-key enough to make someone think, 'Hold on - did she just say that?' wondering at the meaning ...

I could delete it, yes - but part of me wants you to know it, so it'll remain.

1:07 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

that was a nice comment...

and anyway, there is so little traffic
on my sites-of-carefully-crafted-obscurity

1:16 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

and my blind link here ... and that I requested that a certain someone who 'writes with facilty' remove her link to me; it's all sort of absurb, in a larger sense of it all - a part of the human condition, no doubt - Malraux revisited ...

but yes - to repeat my words of few evenings ago, and to make things a bit uncomfortable, you've got a crazy-sexy great mind, so it's all sort of worth it; the sort of mind that I wouldn't be opposed to being isolated with, in an 'Island of the Blue Dolphins' sort of way, were the Gods to deal such a hand.

1:23 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

thank you

1:41 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

the pleasure is - and would be - mine

1:50 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

I'm a lover, not a writer ...

2:11 a.m.  
Blogger name of the rose said...

yes,
but even so,
you have taken my breath
yet again


I have an early morning
and need to dream a bit...


sleep well

2:31 a.m.  
Blogger in vino veritas [in wine, there is truth] said...

indeed, you as well ...

2:41 a.m.  

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